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Post by jetsetwilly on Dec 28, 2012 16:29:26 GMT 1
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Post by nickd on Dec 28, 2012 22:21:32 GMT 1
Interesting find Jetset! - can you see what other information you may be able to find on this by any chance?
Regards
Nick
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Post by jetsetwilly on Dec 29, 2012 9:29:32 GMT 1
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Post by nickd on Dec 29, 2012 9:59:32 GMT 1
Thanks jetset, that's very helpful indeed.
Anyone care to say if they've asked for a WCA conducted by Atos to be recorded and been refused?
Regards
Nick
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Post by jetsetwilly on Dec 29, 2012 10:08:56 GMT 1
Nick, do you think that, with the release of this Document that seems to settle thingss with respect to ESA that our guns now need to be trained on PIP, its lack of any mention of Appeals and various claims that Recording of assessments wont be allowed or offered?
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Post by nickd on Dec 29, 2012 10:25:47 GMT 1
Hi Jetset,
I think we should continue to vigorously challenge the WCA and to that end I recently met with some senior executives of Atos together with my MP. Naturally you get all the usual ' we are making improvements ' responses but it did strike me that they realize they need to redeem themselves with the testing for PIP.
You may have noticed on the forum that I'm posting quite a lot of new articles for PIP which is aimed at increasing awareness over this for later next year; it doesn't mean I think it right to move on from ESA; it's just another aspect that we now have to deal with - the element of PIP - following which it will be Universal Credit plus other changes to existing benefits.
Ideally the tests need to be improved to a point where recordings should be available but shouldn't be needed because people have faith in the assessment process - that's ultimately what we should aim for. What is better about PIP is Atos are not the only contractor so at least comparisons can be made?
Sadly less legal aid and the new appeals process is going to reduce the scope for contesting all of this in Tribunals which deeply concerns me. I also have serious reservations about the similarities in scoring ESA/WCA and PIP and wonder if matching computer testing results will trigger the need to review 'cross checks' across both benefits.
To illustrate my point if the claimant scores for ESA in mobilising under descriptor (1) and is found to be able to walk 200 metres or more then this could be used to say they do not qualify for the comparable descriptor in walking on PIP; do you see what I mean? - they love computer technology to improve 'efficiency'!
Whatever happens - we'll be keeping a close eye on it.
Regards
Nick
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